”There are quite a few trainers and classes. There are a lot of vultures flying around there who will take the move if they like it so I was careful. I just worked with the great trainers. At the performance center, there is a man there who is just great. Norman Smiley, he is a surgeon in the ring. It was incredible. I would love to say I could do The Big Wiggle so I am going to yeah, I can do the wiggle.”
"I saw that he had the work ethic to make it work. A lot of times it's just a matter of getting that opportunity. It's funny that the example of what he is and what Daniel Bryan is, goes against the grain of what the WWE is trying to do. It seems very rare that they take guys off the indies anymore. You know they've got the Performance Center and they want their wrestlers to start from there at the bottom. It's almost like they're trying to grow wrestlers in a petri dish and then you look at guys like Punk, Bryan and Antonio Cesaro who worked all over the world on the independent scene and it seems like they're doing well for themselves and making it in the WWE system despite not being brought up in the WWE system."